Eight days ago John Kasich did a press conference with Mark Kvamme (former, short-lived and illegally appointed head of the Dept of Development) and the CEO of Bob Evans to announce the state would be giving Bob Evans $8 Million to move its headquarters from Columbus to New Albany.

If you were gullible enough to believe the tale John Kasich was spinning then you might actually think Bob Evans was ready to pack up and move its entire operation to Texas until Kasich’s team moved in at the “speed of business” and saved the day!

The real story is much less sexy.

As we’ve been reporting, Bob Evans had been looking for the best deal for months and had been playing Ohio cities against each other in order to get it. And even though Dan Williamson from Mayor Coleman’s office confirmed that they never actually considered moving out of state, Kasich continues to tell the story (read: lie) about Texas as a serious option for the company.

Let me be clear: I’m a fan of Bob Evans restaurants in large part because they are an Ohio-based company. I eat at the one right around the corner with my family at least once a week. And I don’t plan on changing my eating habits just because they went along with the Governor’s lies to get 8 million bucks in free cash to move their headquarters.

That said, there is absolutely no way anyone is telling the truth here except maybe Dan Williamson from Mayor Coleman’s office. And as further proof the Governor is lying, I took a trip over to New Albany today to check out the site of the new Bob Evan’s headquarters for myself.

Based on Kasich’s statements last week you would think we narrowly averted the disastrous departure of the Bob Evans Corporation from Ohio.

According to the people I spoke with at the construction site, development started weeks before Kasich even mentioned the deal. And as you can see by the pictures I took this afternoon, the site has been cleared and roads are already being constructed and Bob Evans is/was well on its way to having a new headquarters long before John Kasich ever got involved.



 
  • Bryancoloh43231

    I spend $75 to $100 a month at Bob Evens and very much enjoy the resturant. With that said I do feel betrayal from their headquarters in falsely dealing with Franklin County and mayor Coleman, especially when a sweet deal was offered to them to move up on Polaris Parkway so at this point I have decided to boycott Bob Evans unless they as a corporation come out with the truth instead of their lies and betrayal. I have no other affiliation with Bob Evans other than eating there as a customer. I urge other union and working middle class families to boycott Bob Evans and to send their message to Bob Evans headquarters!

  • Bryancoloh43231

    I spend $75 to $100 a month at Bob Evens and very much enjoy the resturant. With that said I do feel betrayal from their headquarters in falsely dealing with Franklin County and mayor Coleman, especially when a sweet deal was offered to them to move up on Polaris Parkway so at this point I have decided to boycott Bob Evans unless they as a corporation come out with the truth instead of their lies and betrayal. I have no other affiliation with Bob Evans other than eating there as a customer. I urge other union and working middle class families to boycott Bob Evans and to send their message to Bob Evans headquarters!

  • Daveandbelinda

    I thought it sounded like a shady deal when I heard about it, but now I know it was s shady deal. No business would go to the expense to start land improvements UNLESS they knew they were staying. As I have said before, SHAME on KASICH and now SHAME on BOB EVANS. I am joining the boycott of their restaurants and their store products!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s keep in mind that Taft was never sanctioned by the legislature, let alone impeached when Republicans had smaller majorities than they do now. With 59 out of 99 members in the House and 23 out of 33 in the Senate, impeachment is highly unlikely.

  • Anonymous

    Yet again, you mislead. Virtually all the job losses occurred during the Great Recession. Over 98% of them. And in the past twelve months, we seen dropping unemployment in Ohio and the gain of over 70k jobs. Ohio is already one of the fastest recovering States in the nation, and Kasich has had nothing to do with that recovery. I wouldn’t call a 49%-47% election with low turnout and disportionately high GOP turnout a rejection by the voters as much as a statistical fluke.

  • stryx

    Hey, that reminds we.

    Where’s that Tom Noe-Coingate report?

  • Rgtmwlly

    Bottom line, we have a new Governor. The voters have spoken. He inherited a mess. $8 billion budget hole and a state hemmoraging jobs. And he inherited that situation from someone…oh yeah, you guys.

    Go ahead, defend that record. The deficit was hardly a secret. The job losses had to be stopped. But you’d rather criticize a guy who is doing all he can to keep jobs here. You’d rather dismiss the results of an election as a mere inconvenience. It’s disgusting to watch.

    Hold John Kasich accountable, sure…but give credit where credit is due. Or continue to demonize and demagogue. We’re busy cleaning up the mess.

  • Why’d you change your name back? You trying to make it look like we have TWO GOPer trolls here? 😉

  • Anonymous

    Yet again, you fail the basic comprehension skills my three-year son already has. The State WASN’T hemmoraging jobs. It was gaining them. We’ve GAINED over 73k jobs (all private sector) in past twelve months with a constantly dropping unemployment rate.

    Using the SAME budgetary argument. Strickland inherented a mulit-billion dollar deficit as well in his first budget. He did something no Governor before him or since has done, he reduced the rate of growth in spending to below the rate of inflation. In his second budget, he CUT $2 billion from the General Revenue Fund.

    Kasich’s not doing everything he can to keep jobs here. And I don’t dismiss the results of the election, but acknowledge what there are. Kasich won with no mandate. And since then, has done things that have made him vastly unpopular to the extent it’s hurting the entire Republican brand in the State.

    I *AM* holding Kasich accountable, you right wing jackass. When have you made ONE criticial statement of Kasich? Name one! I’m not demonizing Kasich; I’m actually pointing out what the fuck he’s doing versus what he CLAIMS he’s done.

    What on EARTH has Kasich done in three months in office that deserves any credit? That he balanced the budget by raiding money meant for schools and cities, only to then incredulously call that REFORM?

    The Buckeye Institute, hardly a liberal bastion, blasts Kasich for his increases in spending, which is over $5 BILLION. Even today, the Dispatch reports that Kasich’s budget director needs more time to explain what happened to the so-called $8 billion deficit.

  • Anonymous

    Yet again, you fail the basic comprehension skills my three-year son already has. The State WASN’T hemmoraging jobs. It was gaining them. We’ve GAINED over 73k jobs (all private sector) in past twelve months with a constantly dropping unemployment rate.

    Using the SAME budgetary argument. Strickland inherented a mulit-billion dollar deficit as well in his first budget. He did something no Governor before him or since has done, he reduced the rate of growth in spending to below the rate of inflation. In his second budget, he CUT $2 billion from the General Revenue Fund.

    Kasich’s not doing everything he can to keep jobs here. And I don’t dismiss the results of the election, but acknowledge what there are. Kasich won with no mandate. And since then, has done things that have made him vastly unpopular to the extent it’s hurting the entire Republican brand in the State.

    I *AM* holding Kasich accountable, you right wing jackass. When have you made ONE criticial statement of Kasich? Name one! I’m not demonizing Kasich; I’m actually pointing out what the fuck he’s doing versus what he CLAIMS he’s done.

    What on EARTH has Kasich done in three months in office that deserves any credit? That he balanced the budget by raiding money meant for schools and cities, only to then incredulously call that REFORM?

    The Buckeye Institute, hardly a liberal bastion, blasts Kasich for his increases in spending, which is over $5 BILLION. Even today, the Dispatch reports that Kasich’s budget director needs more time to explain what happened to the so-called $8 billion deficit.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if the Toledo Blade would like to win another Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. Anyone know any potential Pulitzer winners up in Toledo that would like to dig into this $8 million present that Kasich gave to Bob Evans? It is highly unlikely that the Kasich cheerleaders at the Dispatch will do any investigating into the date of the land purchase, contract date of various contractors, permits, and architectural plans. We definitely need someone willing to check out how this all went down.

  • Anonymous

    Riiiiiight. Sure, Smokey… whatever.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry that point out how ignorant and uninformed hurts your inflated ego. But that’s the best response you got? Poor baby.

  • Anastasjoy

    So he basically gift-wrapped $8 million of OUR money and handed it to Bob Evans, even though they’d already made the decision about where their HQ was going to be? If Kasich is serious about encouraging regionalism and in inter-governmental cooperation (and he isn’t), he is the one in the best position to put his foot down about Ohio communities trying to lure business at the expensive of other Ohio communities. Instead, he encourages it. A lightning bolt should strike him if he ever mentions again municipalities combine services or school systems in order to economize. He’s lost the moral authority because he’s helping to sow the mistrust that makes that difficult at best.

  • Anastasjoy

    So he basically gift-wrapped $8 million of OUR money and handed it to Bob Evans, even though they’d already made the decision about where their HQ was going to be? If Kasich is serious about encouraging regionalism and in inter-governmental cooperation (and he isn’t), he is the one in the best position to put his foot down about Ohio communities trying to lure business at the expensive of other Ohio communities. Instead, he encourages it. A lightning bolt should strike him if he ever mentions again municipalities combine services or school systems in order to economize. He’s lost the moral authority because he’s helping to sow the mistrust that makes that difficult at best.

  • MissGov

    Waffle House has a much better breakfast and it’s cheaper. I used to love Bob Evans but, I haven’t eaten there in years.

  • Columbus has some great breakfast places too, but I often end up at Bob Evans because it’s kid friendly. Dragging 2 toddlers and a newborn through the line at North Star and having to buy them a full priced adult breakfast somehow never seems appealing to me on family breakfast day.

    Without the kids, though, there are so many great options. Tasi in the short north has my latest breakfast addiction: poached eggs with blackbean cakes and jalapeño butter sauce!

    Skillet in German Village, North Star, Best Breakfast in Westerville, savory crepes from Taste of Belgium in the North Market…

    I’m getting hungry just thinking about it.

    Not that I’m recommending a boycott, but anyone does decide to go that route, checkout breakfast with Nick for even more options.

  • Anonymous

    To each their own. I have written BE, explaining their extortion of the State of Ohio is the reason I won’t be dining there with my family again. For me, I have 11.8 million reasons not to.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

    “In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

    Obviously since I don’t know you or what you or your “wife” look like it wasn’t commentary on your looks.

    Listen. You’re welcome to read and comment and disagree with us. It just seems like you are mostly here to provoke. Hence the troll reference.

  • Tarfam325

    Keep reporting Kasich’s supporters and those who support the use of these types of funds while also claiming to want to balance the budget by taking money and livelihood from hard-working Ohioans. If EVERY public employee withdraws our business from these supporters, they WILL listen. I will change my insurance, I will change my bank, I will boycott ANY business that has supported the people who have been passing this horrible legislation. And I will forward a letter or e-mail to them stating the reason why I am doing so! Whoever said, “how can you fix an $8 billion hole by spending an additional $5 billion is right on the money! Keep giving us names, Plunderbund. And EVERY public employee, hold the legislators who are voting for this garbage AND their supporters accountable. Send them the message: If YOU support THEM, we WON’T support you and your businesses!!!

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    Dont you have to get permits to start doing contruction ?
    Why doesnt some one up that way check into “when” they obtained these permits?

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    We got ripped off — do the math– BE got 6 to 8 mill in breaks to keep how many jobs — maybe 300– I dont have a problem with the boycot — I already dont buy coke products or Mikesells products —
    All this man did was move money around in his so called budget –just watch when the money comes out of the pockets of the local govt( city and county)
    sales taxes will increase etc.
    Really doesnt matter — you think your republican way and I will think the right way…………….

  • GreenIris

    Fotogirl is dead on.
    that’s a very good point. The surveying and planning has to start way in advance. You just don’t send out big dozers to plow a road. Those plans have to be passed through a council or governing body. Plus tying into water and sewer systems. The contractors also had to be scheduled.
    This started a LONG LONG time ago.
    This is a prime example of King John;s corporate welfare. Rob(sOhio) from the poor and give to the rich.

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    yes and there has to be a contract with some company someplace — bid on etc — lowest bidder? whos land was this — who owned it — theres a way to tell all about this — with records– this was no over nite thing —

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    so Joseph who was the construction company — if it was put out for bid ( which it should have been ) it should be common knowledge — I have no idea how to look this kind of stuff up — need plan numbers etc

  • Anastasjoy

    Actually, the fact that you chose to respond only to a frustrated epithet and not to factual arguments reveals the paucity of YOUR argument.

  • Anastasjoy

    Virtually every community has a locally owned diner where you can get a cheap breakfast. In Cleveland, both Tommy’s and the West Side Market Cafe will feed you a basic breakfast for under $5. I can’t imagine there aren’t similar places around the state, possibly even cheaper because this is the big city and those two are in “fashionable” neighborhoods.

  • Anastasjoy

    Wetsu, you’ve brought up something very important I haven’t seen mentioned all that often in the SB 5 debate. Even if people are not laid off, if you cut the salaries and benefits of a vast swath of public workers like teachers and police officers, they will eat out less often, go to their favorite bar less often, go to the movies less often, buy flowers for their mom less often. Then a lot of private businesses suffer as well. I hope workers in Ohio will take them time to do what they did in Wisconsin when they withdrew money from a bank that supported Scott Walker — learn which businesses support the politicians pushing this anti-worker agenda.

  • wetsu

    Anastasjoy-

    While I certainly do not wish to lower myself to engage in the same level of “divide and conquer” tactics as those who have foisted this dynamic on us it is certain that people speak with their wallets. We need to share accurate information with each other regarding those who back the vindictive elements of the budget and proposed legislation. I am also amazed by the number of enlightened ones who now consider public sector workers as part of the entitlement class. To me this is an obvious, calculated ploy. Where were these geniuses ten years ago? Ten months ago?

    I am not unrealistic. We absolutely need to address our financial situation, but I have yet to see an abundance of compelling evidence that this is part of an effective budget management plan. What are the chances that those stridently in support of SB5 stand to cash in?

    On Friday night a police officer was shot and killed in my home town of Sandusky. Please understand that I do not wish to politicize Officer Dunn’s death. That is inappropriate. However, it did make me wonder how much escalation we may see over time if law enforcement is compromised.

    R.I.P. Officer Dunn.

  • buckeyekelly

    Sir/Madam with all due respect, how is spending $8M on moving a company that had no intentions of leaving anyway good leadership or economic sense? Pretend for a moment Governor Strickland did this. How annoyed would you be? How outraged would you be when there is an $8B deficit 9 figures of PUBLIC and TAXPAYER money goes to a PRIVATE COMPANY?

    You cannot pretend you wouldn’t call shenanigans.

    Defend this action on someting other than Kasich had the cahonnes where Ted didn’t argument, because it doesn’t hold water here, on TBP, or the Dispatch message boards.

  • Doing all he can to keep jobs here??? Are you kidding me? Check into Kasich’s records. We are losing jobs. And What $8 million budget hole? That was a lie too!
    And even if it were true, you don’t close it up on the backs of the working class!!!

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