John Kasich was on Bill Cunningham’s radio show last night talking about SB5 and, while I hate to admit it, Cunningham came off sounding very rational and well informed on the issue. His questions were the ones that needed to be asked by Fox and CNN, especially the one I’ve posted below.

In short, Bill asks Kasich “Why not listen?” why not “get into a room with the people who are actually affected”? why not “meet with them, Governor?”

Kasich, obviously annoyed, responds by admitting he’s never actually met with anyone from the unions (though ‘his people’ have) and that he’s already made a decision and will not be sitting down with anyone.

I think everyone in Ohio needs to be concerned when an ultra-conservative radio host basically tells the Republican Governor that he can’t just make decisions in a vacuum and the Governor responds: screw you, I just did!

During the campaign Kasich claimed his door would always be open. One more bullshit lie to add to the list.

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  • Mom2two

    Simple answer is that he has nothing to say.. this isn’t about any type of platform or necessary sacrifice. This is union-busting and that’s all it is. What the hell would he say in a room full of union people? Oh, I know.. same thing he said to the EPA, same thing he said to the voters: agree with me or go straight to hell.

  • Babsee0510

    cause he will not budge,, and only has one agenda, to weaken or bust unions… Where are the jobs John and the GOP? He is acting like a stubborn mule….

  • Packing4FL

    This is no suprise. Kasich doesn’t take advice from anyone except his kids. Also of note today is that the Ohio Statehood day celebration tomorrow has been cancelled. It will likely never happen again because the GOP is about to kill the sponsoring OHS.

  • He doesn’t want to be confused by additional information — he’s already made up his mind.

  • He doesn’t want to be confused by additional information — he’s already made up his mind.

  • Anonymous

    John Kasich already met with his “constituents.” Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers. The rest of us are just obstacles between them and the state treasury.

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    Actually what I heard Kasich say last Friday was this ” I have heard them( speaking of state employees) he said I hear them on TV and I read the newspapers” Cunningham said today at noon that the Gov is making a huge mistake by not talking to union leaders and one he eventually will pay for.( like in Nov. when he thinks this will be a ballot issue.) He not rational– after all this same group of employees took concessions with Strickland — we arent that hard hard to deal with,,but HE sure is.
    We have all been lumped together in this — Cunningham was also right today when he told a guy that said we get this and that– he said NO this is not a one size fits all
    And thats correct ALL unions have agencyspecific items just for them
    Odot, Corrections, Ohio Patrol etc all have things for them that DO NOT apply to the others.
    Cunningham actually asked several times to sit down calmy and talk maybe to answer questions to explain — he said he only answers to God.I swear thats what he said — I bet Cunningham would send you a copy of the interview.

  • James

    Sounds a little like Bush and Cheney. When you “know how the world works,” you needn’t be bothered with things like “facts,” or “evidence.” You go with your gut.

  • Rob

    My wife is a teacher and she had a union meeting today on SB 5. Not 100% if this is accurate form the union, but she claimed that Kasich wan’t to change the public school teachers salary so the starting salary is 17K, with the max out level being 38K (35 years of experience). If this is true, things are going to be truly awful if this passes.

  • leeseh

    I don’t know if Wisconsin (the home of AFSCME) state employees and residents have been pounded down as much by the Republican mantra or if the rural areas are as reliably Republican as the ones in Ohio. Public employees in Ohio have been pounded for over 16 years (although not as overtly, obviously), about much they were overpaid, etc., etc. That sinks in after a while, even if you know better. Taft negotiated a contract where the only thing that mattered, as far as promotions goes, was who management wanted. I know a person who got 3 promotions within 6 years for no other reason than a manager liked them and pushed for them to get the job. When Strickland did get in, he didn’t fire some of the lower managers that he should have and put in bad so-called Democrats in as Directors (Guzman over Public Safety for one) . You get tired of fighting that long. I know I did.

  • James

    Kasich’s a charter school man. This would be a great step toward completely privatizing education. Private and charter schools would suddenly be able to compete with public schools for labor. So it would not surprise me if it were true.

  • Cdurflinger

    Rob – That is what I have been told as well. And don’t forget they want us to contribute ALL of our retirement and pay all or much more of our insurance deductible. I will probably OWE them money every year. Bhahahah – except I will go on welfare, medical card, housing assisstance, and take them down with me. (I know this is a HORRIBLE attitude to have, but if Kasich is going to screw me, I most certainly am not going to drink the Kool-aid and follow him. I will be screwing him every single way I know how and I hope everyone else will to.)

  • Anonymous

    Can we please drop the KKK stuff, please?

  • guest

    Because he hates people who have real jobs with real work as opposed to trust fundies who make money by stealing money. Why bother? He doesn’t live in Columbus anyway. It is so much easier to rule from behind a wall. Don’t have to bother with the little people he works for. Oh yeah right, he works for Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and anybody who is rich enough to buy another campaign for him. We are just the current bunch of suckers he is taking for a ride.

    Evil Idiot. He can go to the devil with rotten Ronnie.

  • guest

    Unfortunately Ohioans didn’t vote or voted for their own union busting. The R’s own all of the branches of govt here. Of course that will not work out well. Then we wonder why things aren’t better.

    Keep voting for evil rich people Ohioans like it has been working for the last 30 year. No wonder no one wants to stay here after they graduate. You are slitting your throat. Run while you have the chance. We have water that is it.

  • Rob

    If this passes, a citizen’s initiative needs to immediately be in the making.

    I feel terrible for everyone this will affect. We just need to keep fighting and hope others will help.

    TO put it lightly, if this passes, I may stick around in Ohio long enough to vote against every politician that voted for this bill. If they remain, and the law doesn’t go away, I’ll be shopping for another state to live in.

  • Teachu145b

    If Kasich isn’t stoppped, the next thing he will take will be all our money in our state pensions!

  • Bnonut

    Who in the world voted for him. I sure did not. He called a policeman an idiot, twice, should have cuffed him and put him behind bars. Just shows the caliber of this person! Republican?, no thought for the people of Ohio! What a party and all we can do is pray.

    Mark

  • Bnonut

    Who in the world voted for him. I sure did not. He called a policeman an idiot, twice, should have cuffed him and put him behind bars. Just shows the caliber of this person! Republican?, no thought for the people of Ohio! What a party and all we can do is pray.

    Mark

  • Bnonut

    Who in the world voted for him. I sure did not. He called a policeman an idiot, twice, should have cuffed him and put him behind bars. Just shows the caliber of this person! Republican?, no thought for the people of Ohio! What a party and all we can do is pray.

    Mark

  • Courtlady

    Who goes on Bill Cunningham’s Show and acts like an arrogant ass? Sounds like John Kasich has a bad case of the Charlie Sheen’s.

  • Courtlady

    Who goes on Bill Cunningham’s Show and acts like an arrogant ass? Sounds like John Kasich has a bad case of the Charlie Sheen’s.

  • Three times, actually.

  • Anonymous

    No Dah!

  • Anonymous

    I think Kasich doesn’t want to meet with union people because (a) he doesn’t respect them as equals, (b) he is afraid of them. A reasonable person would meet with people who have opposing views, but apparently Kasich is not reasonable.

  • Ron8233

    Kasich buried Strickland with the phrase, “Strickland didn’t get the jobs done,” during last year’s election. Odd isn’t it that he (Kasich) has such contempt for middle class workers, particularly those who report to him as employees of the State of Ohio. Call him elitist. He hasn’t earned the honor of being called th Governor of our great state.

  • Anonymous

    When is the last time you visited a public school? Have you sat in a classroom and watched a teacher doing his/her job? I bet if you asked the principal of a local public high school if you could observe a general math class in an inner city classroom, he/she would welcome your visit. Teaching is a racket? I guess my two college degrees and additional certifications were a waste of time.

  • pragmatic_one

    I remember listening to Cunningham when I was growing up. Spent many a summer night in my youth listening to Marty and Joe call the Reds and then listening to Bill Cunningham afterward on WLW The Big One. He’d talk mainly about the Reds and Bengals. I thought he was funny.

    Then something went terribly wrong. My condolences to the Cunningham family for the loss of Bill’s cognitive abilities. He had such a bright future ahead of him. It’s tragic, really.

  • Anonymous

    Oh no, please tell me you’re not a high school English teacher. I hope your students know more about tense and subject/verb agreement than you’ve displayed here.

    “their refusal to conceded on any reasonable measures”???

    Looks like you need some peer-editing, cuz thasNOTright.

  • djb0032

    Would someone please explain why no one has called Kasich on his statement that collective bargaining will save Ohio money? How????? Collective bargaining for city employees keeps the bosses, mayor and law director from rail roading the employee. The state doesn’t pay the city employees wage or retirement, so how will ending collective bargaining save the state any money????

  • thasright

    Why is calling a person an idiot such an abhorrent act? Don’t you know any?

  • The country is broke. Ohio is broke, taxpayers in Ohio are broke. You are not entitled to a job or a pension or healthcare that is funded by Ohioans who are BROKE. Why in the hell can’t you get this through your head?

  • Anonymous

    Ohio isn’t broke. You’re confusing a projected deficit with insolvency. Ohio is fiscally sound. And even the sponsor of SB 5 admits that this bill will do NOTHING to solve Ohio’s budget.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Charlie but union members are not representative of the middle

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