Look out for the bus, Senator Jones…

Can’t believe that Governor Kasich uttered those words “not my bill.”

Kasich did the same thing to State Representative John Adams.  He used to praise him for this income tax repeal legislation, until a Legislative Service Commission (LSC) analysis of Adams’ bill became a political liability in the campaign.

[UPDATE:]  A commenter reminded us of Kasich on Fox News just the day before:

Uses the term “we” at least eighteen times when talking about SB 5.  Says it’s part of his overall package of reforms to make Ohio a job creator.

Now, he says it’s not “his” bill. 

Does this mean Kasich is backing away from collective bargaining repeal?  No.  First, Kasich has a documented history (see John Adams example) of doing this.  He also has a history of saying totally different and seemingly contradictory things depending on the media outlet.

This is an amateur way of Kasich to try to triangulate.  He’s letting Jones take all the heat now, and hope we all forget that he showed up at the first hearing of the bill and gave it his full throated endorsement. 

Kasich isn’t backing down, but he’s definitely trying to create some distance between himself and Jones.  He’s hoping to take ownership of the final product while isolating himself from the heat in the kitchen.  You know, being a coward.

Kasich’s threat to put this in the budget isn’t much of a threat.  First, he’s going to have a hard enough time to pass his budget even with the large majorities in both houses of the General Assembly.  Two, he’s burning up his scarce political capital like his term ends in July.  Three, the folks who are getting weary of this debate have the power to strip it from the budget.  There’s not going to be much support to re-litigate these issues in a month from now by anyone.

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  • Anonymous

    Kasich’s other whopper: “Teachers should have say about salaries”

    Yet SB 5 prohibits step increases and prohibits automatic raises for teachers who obtain a masters degree.

  • guest

    republican governors are showing signs of caving. Mitch Daniels just took Indiana’s similar bill/proposal off the table and now Kasich is starting to distance himself on it too.

    I wonder if it has anything to do with this poll: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-22-poll-public-unions-wisconsin_N.htm

  • Jen

    That’s okay, Mr. Kasich. We don’t claim you, either.

  • Megs3kids

    Kasich sucks! Get him out and put him back on Wall Street~

  • IAFFbrother

    Hey Kasich why Don”t you allow Bernie Madoff manage your reitrement.

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  • Mlrp75

    LSOS

  • Becky

    If the south is doing well….Is that why Texas has over an $27Billion deficit?

  • Donus

    how about Tom Noe??-there’s an Ohio Republican fundraiser and investor in Ohio Pension funds.

  • Portia A. Boulger

    The Gov. lies! All school districts in Ohio are mandated by law NOT to negotiate contracts that they cannot afford.

  • Greg Soper

    The Governor must have Senator Grendells remarks about this

    Sen. Timothy J. Grendell, R-Chesterland, questioned how much protection civil service would provide. He said the bill could end up costing the state money and should scare conservatives worried about private contracting rights.

    “Even if you say these are publicly granted contracts so the government has more leeway, you’re opening up a Pandora’s Box to the principle that government can interfere with private contract rights when it suits government’s purpose,” Grendell said. “If you’re a conservative or a tea party person, you should be greatly concerned about that concept because today’s collective bargaining agreement could be tomorrow’s private business contract.”

    Grendell said he favors some changes to collective bargaining limiting binding arbitration rulings under a new formula and making teachers re-earn their tenure but he thinks the bill goes too far. Eliminating collective bargaining for state workers as a way to establish a grievance process to settle disputes over terminations or other workplace issues would be replaced by lawsuits.

    “As written, Senate Bill 5 becomes the labor lawyers’ full employment act,” he said.

    “You need to have some form of collective bargaining to actually expedite management’s ability to deal with the work force and save taxpayers money. I guarantee you litigation will be more expensive than collective bargaining.”

    The Governor needs to man up and admit he was wrong on what OHIOANS wanted

  • ohio teacher

    In what school districts in Ohio do the teachers not pay anything toward their pensions? If that is the case, it is the exception, not the rule. I am a teacher and I pay into my pension and so does every other teacher I know.

    Notice how he wouldn’t answer the question about 29% of an income of 55,000 being too much to contribute. He says that teachers should have a say in their salary- isn’t that called collective bargaining!?

  • Jim

    I’m all for letting Texas cede from the Union. Good riddance!

  • Jim

    I’m all for letting Texas cede from the Union. Good riddance!

  • Coleman Kane

    Kasich already distanced himself from it earlier. He lamented that a bill that did not go far enough would receive his veto pen. Make no mistake, Kasich isn’t caving. This is him posturing to keep Ohio GOP senators from “weakening” SB5.

  • Asktheteach1

    LMAO..PUHLEASE! Poor King John…,Guess Yesterdays Anti-SB-5 was too much for the guy..clearly…YOU are NOT OUR GOvernor, KASICK! “THIS IS OUR HOUSE! CHANTING, LOCKIng us out of OUR STATE HOUSE? WE the People …have spoken….You’re FIRED Kasich

  • Asktheteach1

    bull..thats not what he said yesterday, he said he was optomistic it would pass n was pushn it thru? kasich veto? puhlease…u must not b from ohio nor have been keepn up to date on current issues

  • Bgcntry351

    After listening to Kasich I found out that for the last 16years I have made a mistake on my Federal, State, and local income tax forms. He stated it is about about people paying taxes for other people to work off that money. Hmmm, guess since I am policeman I don’t pay taxes? Damn where is my refund for all that I have paid? Hey Mr. Kasich, ” We idoits pay taxes too !”

  • Anonymous

    He actually has never made a veto threat. He just said that if he’s not happy with how it’s going, he’ll include what he wants in his budget bill.

  • Nojfairburn

    Republicians, Kasich only care about two things! Themselves and the very rich! Middle class, unemployed, poor, elderly, disabled ect.. you have no rights! Why in Gods name would the State of Ohio elect a former Wallstreet person in the first place! With the bail out by tax payers money in the past? Kasich is a joke and making jokes of police officers! Wise up Ohio and this country, you will not have any rights only what your Government tells you!

  • Lacklandgd

    Hmm, did anyone catch the comment about “Obama came to Ohio 12 times to campaign against me”….and the look on his face when he said it?….no, he’s not being retalitory, not at all!

  • Danielle, teacher

    That is absolutely correct which is why most teachers have been taking 0% raises for years now to save their benefits.

  • irishgal

    I have little to no sympathy for Shannon Jones – her little ploy to cozy up to Kasich is beyond pathetic. You would think she would know better than to trust him – hopefully this will wipe the smirk off her face. What a bunch of lousy “leaders” we have in this state.

  • schming

    Get rid of Governor Kasich

  • Dave Birely

    Democrats are made up of a largely uneducated public. No post-hs education and no motiviation to actually look up details for themselves. They just believe whatever crap their “union” or democratic rep tells them to believe. Much like you are doing. Ohio elected Kasich to be governor so that Ohio doesn’t end up bankrupt like all of the other democratic led states are heading.

  • Anonymous

    Kasich won with less than half the vote in a low turnout election in which more registered voters DIDN’T vote than voted. So calm down, there.

    Ohio isn’t going BANKRUPT, isn’t in any danger of going bankrupt, and has excellent bond ratings. Don’t be absurd.

    Show me a television ad Kasich or the RGA ran in which Kasich talked about doing something like SB 5? A point in the debates?

    Although there were moments that those who paid attention would have realized that Kasich was going to do this, I GUARANTEE most Ohioans, including people who voted for him, did not.

    That’s why public opinion polling shows a clear majority of Ohioans OPPOSE this very kind of proposal, and there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest that Ohioans elected Kasich with the desire to see him do this. You’re sadly uninformed.

  • Anonymous

    Kasich won with less than half the vote in a low turnout election in which more registered voters DIDN’T vote than voted. So calm down, there.

    Ohio isn’t going BANKRUPT, isn’t in any danger of going bankrupt, and has excellent bond ratings. Don’t be absurd.

    Show me a television ad Kasich or the RGA ran in which Kasich talked about doing something like SB 5? A point in the debates?

    Although there were moments that those who paid attention would have realized that Kasich was going to do this, I GUARANTEE most Ohioans, including people who voted for him, did not.

    That’s why public opinion polling shows a clear majority of Ohioans OPPOSE this very kind of proposal, and there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest that Ohioans elected Kasich with the desire to see him do this. You’re sadly uninformed.

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  • Kasucksucks

    Momar Kasuck must resign or be thrust from office in a very harsh way. The middle class of Ohio will not stand for this moron.

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