Again, this guy is clueless.  Has no idea that this was tried in Michigan and declared unconstitutional.  Admits that he has no evidence that this is a serious problem.

Insists that the applicant not only be subject to drug testing, but pay for it “out of their wallet.”  Because people who need help with housing, heating, food, and health care can pay a co-pay for welfare, right?  It’s all amount of priorities…

Claims that this will lead to tremendous savings.  A complete and total idiot.

“Once we implement the testing” we’ll know if we needed to do this.  Seriously.  This is what he claims.

It’s like pulling the trigger on a gun repeatedly as you look down the barrel to see if the gun is loaded.  If it goes off, we’ll know by the flash.  This guy doesn’t apparently even know how most of the assistant programs work.   It’s not like most of these just give cash to recipients for them to potentially misdirect elsewhere.  Seriously, did he not realize we’ve kind of figured that part out already?

He keeps talking about “his research,”  “his sources,” and yet his only source for the cost of this thing is someone from the probation department at his home county’s court system.

Anyone who’s done the research, not talked it over with “knowledgeable folks” at the local diner, but people who have seriously studied this issue would tell you that it’d cost the State tens of thousands of dollars just to weed out one welfare recipient who tests positive.

Listen to his comment at the end:

“When you’re asking someone for help, you have an obligation to prove that you’re going to use the resources wisely.  That you’re going to use the resources prudently.”

Is he talking about welfare recipients or RobsOhio?  Yeah, I know…

Is there an urine test to see if someone is addicted to stupid pills?

 
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  • Fotogirlcb2002

    there must be a huge sale on stupid pills ……do you think his health care is covering the cost
    I think he needs a urine test, maybe even a breathalizer test
    he doesnt get out much … does he?

  • guest

    This guy’s Google machine must be broken. Three minutes after I read this post, I found articles citing the Michigan case where this was deemed federally unconstitutional (4th Amendment, unnecessary searches), scientifically unnecessary (study after study states welfare recipients are no more likely to be drug users then their working sector counterparts), and too costly (average drug test cost $42).

    At the time Michigan was trying to enact this, 49 OTHER STATES decided that this policy wasn’t worth their time based on some combination of the three reasons listed above.

  • guest

    This guy’s Google machine must be broken. Three minutes after I read this post, I found articles citing the Michigan case where this was deemed federally unconstitutional (4th Amendment, unnecessary searches), scientifically unnecessary (study after study states welfare recipients are no more likely to be drug users then their working sector counterparts), and too costly (average drug test cost $42).

    At the time Michigan was trying to enact this, 49 OTHER STATES decided that this policy wasn’t worth their time based on some combination of the three reasons listed above.

  • buckeyekelly

    I honestly thought the LSC was supposed to analyze any bill that came forward before it went to like committee or even introduced. At what point will the GOP Ohio Senate or House READ THE FRIGGIN’ CONSTITUTION???? How about the Dispatch or NBC4 (which is rapidly becoming too conservative and outright biased for me to continue to watch, no matter how much I enjoy Jym Ganahl) possibly reading it.

    I, fortunately, am represented by Democrats in both House and Senate.

  • Rob

    I think this should be extended to include out state representatives. If they are so fascinated by urine, they should be required to submit to an observer drug test daily. That way they can’t get around how quickly blow gets out of their system.

  • Anastasjoy

    Can you explain to me how “dollars” can be turned over to anyone or spent on drugs, when there are no “dollars” given to anyone who has the Directions card for food? Even when there were still food stamps, it required some effort to turn them into drugs, and the value in drugs was not that great. Now it seems to me you’d really have to go through a convoluted process, since you do not get “dollars” and the cards can only be used for specific things.

    We’re way too quick to demonize people who need help as lazy, irresponsible, or even criminal, when many of the people who need help these days are no different from us. I would believe a Directions card user any day before a state legislator as a sober, responsible citizen.

  • missingtedalready

    LSC drafts unconstitutional legislation all of the time. They can tell the legislator “hey, this is unconstitutional,” but they still have to draft it. LSC has to do what the legislator tells them to do.

    And yes, NBC 4 is becoming far too conservative. Their crush on Jon Kasich is ridiculously obvious.

  • Anonymous

    Are Republicans obsessed with other people’s urine? Do you remember Republican Jim Hughes in April 2009 and his bill that targeted urine drinking? (http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2009/04/21/senate_approves_bill_that_targ.html) People are out of work and Republican are wasting time and energy on urine bills.

  • Anonymous

    I try not to remember it.

  • sickofdrugs

    Directions cards are just as easy to scam an was the old way. Take someone to the grocery, buy their groceries and they give you cash. Simple. It’s a sad day when we doing everything possible to keep a drug addict on his drugs. Pat him on the back and tell him everything is going to be ok. We won’t allow anyone to take his drugs away from him. In fact, here’s some money, go buy some more. Stop treating drug addicts like victims. That’s why our society is comsumed by drugs everywhere you go.

  • sickofdrugs

    Do you really think they would have done it right in front of you? Wake up people.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe he would want to ban this:

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