Busy as hell lately, but I’m gonna try to comment on how I plan to vote on Tuesday (as opposed to how I plan to visit as many polling places in District 7 on Tuesday ;).? Today, I’m gonna comment on Issue 2.

Last time around, you may recall, I voted against casino gambling in Ohio on one principal – such principal being that I’d like to see the Dickensian parasitic feasting of corporate interests on Ohio’s poor stop at some point.?? It’d be nice, don’t ya think?? I mean, really – haven’t we all given enough of our skin to the top of the food chain?? I guess that makes me a killjoy buzz kill hypocrite, given how much I played the craps tables in Vegas a couple weeks ago.? But I digress.

I lost that one, and legal casino gambling is coming to Ohio.? The Ohio Constitution has written into it, forEVER, the right of a few very rich people, conveniently noted by name, to get obscenely more rich by taking poor people’s money.? Hoo.? Ray.

Here’s the funny part about Issue 2 on the ballot this Tuesday.?? Ya’ll fucked up on the address of the casino in Columbus.

Well, well, well.

You’d think when you go about planning to enshrine into the core governing document of the state your free market right to have the poorest Ohioans hand you every last drop of their cash 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, you would at least get the address of your Columbus rape station correct.? Even a small time burglar cases the joint he’s gonna hit for at least an hour.? In that hour, he gets the address correct.? You know how we all know he gets the address correct?? Because that’s the place he hits.? Duh.

If I got an address wrong on a legal filing as an attorney, I’d have to check my malpractice insurance to be sure that level of stupidity was covered when I got sued.? If I got an address wrong in a homework assignment, at any level of my education, I’d probably have been docked at least one letter grade.? These guys get the address wrong, no problem, they’re our slave masters, we have to fix it FOR them.

So now not only did these parasites force the entire state of Ohio to write this license to thieve into the founding document of Ohio, we now have to have the entire state vote again to correct the address.? Where is the teabagger outrage at micromanaging the free market?? Oh….sorry – they’ll be the first in line for the nickel slots, dragging the oxygen tanks one corporate created addiction forces into their nostrils, in order to bend over for a government created addiction they themselves probably voted for.? Who’s the hypocrite now?

I’m not actually interested in the reason why the address has to change.? I can’t imagine why it would matter where the poorest people in Ohio went to hand a few filthy rich thieves their money.? If I had my right to take money enshrined in constitutional government, I could give a shit where I have to go to take the money.? Who cares where they park the car?? It’s like a bank robber complaining that he has to actually go to the bank to get the money.? Dude – that’s where the money is.? Wherever this casino goes, that’s where the money is going to be.? So go and take it.

Apparently, we’ve all lost the part of our brain that notices absurdity.? Because if we still had that part of our brain, Ohio wouldn’t be this far into a Dali painting of an Escher drawing.

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  • XYZ

    Do your research, Tim. Your complete lack of analysis on this issue and the people behind it makes me question every other opinion you have.

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  • mvirenicus

    ohio is an absurdity. i've made note of this fact on numerous occasions. i'm far from having lost that part of my brain that detects absurdity. it is ohio. great post, btw. i was planning to vote no on 2 just to feck with the downstaters. that's reason enough.

  • SWOhio

    I left it blank. Being in a different part of Ohio, I felt it should be left to those who live in Columbus to decide.

  • dwhite105

    As much as I like you Tim, I think you're a bit misguided on this issue. The original ballot issue last year was indeed pushed by wealthy out of state interests who basically said, “We're gonna build this motherfucker wherever we want, and there's nothing you can do about it because it's written into your Constitution, bitches.”

    Well, Issue 2 is the project not of out-of-state interests, but by Columbus citizens who feel like placing this casino right in the heart of downtown would ruin the pseudo-renaissance the city is going through right now. So we, the citizens of Columbus, want to move the casino to the west side of town, away from the heart of downtown where there are fewer entertainment and dining alternatives to be devastated by the casino.

    Casinos are going to happen. I don't like it, you don't like it. At least let the citizens of Columbus decide where they want the casino to be.

  • Nifty Lawrence

    Not all us Columbus folks want the location moved. I, for one, want it to remain in the Arena District where I think it's a great fit.

    And all the “casinos suck money from the pockets of the poor” rhetoric is so overwrought. I've been to plenty of casinos in several states and, except for one dive riverboat casino, have yet to see casinos of the type anti-choice gambling opponents like to portray.

    Tell you what, I'll spend my money the way I want. You do the same. What we each do with our money is no one's business but ours.

  • What dwhite105 said.

    Also I think you voided any validity for your argument Tim when you included “I?m not actually interested in the reason why the address has to change.”

    The casino is going to be built. The casino owners love the existing spot. Central Ohio residents – at least the ones who worked to get this on the ballot – would prefer the new spot.

    By voting No on issue 2 all you're doing is fucking over the local residents and handing the casino owners a pass to build in the Arena District.

  • Shalom Tim,

    I voted against Issue 2. I know that it is a throw-away/protest vote, but I cast it anyway.

    What I'd really like to do is outlaw all state-sanctioned gambling in the state, but as long as there are two cockroaches and a piece of chalk to draw a circle, gamblers will gamble.




  • The casino owners didn't get the address wrong. They got EXACTLY the address they wanted.

    It's central ohio's residents who don't like the address. And THEY are trying to change it – not the casino owners.

    I'm sorry you feel betrayed by Ohio's voters because they passed the amendment that brought casino gambling to Ohio, Tim.

    But Central Ohio residents actually voted AGAINST the original amendment. The rest of the state – especially NE Ohio – voted overwhelmingly for it.

    You guys forced this casino on Columbus to begin with – and now you are recommending that Ohio's voters screw Central Ohio over again by not letting local residents move it to a different location?

  • i'm sorry, but none of this is persuasive to me in the least.

    first of all, the ads i've seen in support of Issue 2 call it “an address correction”. that's what the ad says, not me. if you have to “correct” the address, that means it was gotten wrong in the first place. if that's not actually what occurred, then why does the ad describe it that way?

    second, the casino owners got the pass to build where they wanted by getting the state to vote to write that into the constitution. i didn't hear anyone complaining about the location when people were busily campaigning for a yes vote.

    sorry, but this is what you get when corporate interests are permitted to simply write their business model, including the address of the place of business, into state law in perpetuity. if this business model destroys a neighborhood at the hand of those corporate interests acting under authority of the state constitution, sorry, not my problem. i voted against it. and will vote against this, too.

    that's what you should have done, too, joe.

  • Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't it mean it didn't happen, Tim.

    Jesus Christ, man, the location of the Columbus casino was THE major issue here and the primary reason many Central Ohio voters gave for voting against the amendment the first time.

    Again, just because you didn't hear about it up in Cleveland doesn't mean it wasn't an issue and doesn't continue to be a big issue for Columbus.

    It may not be your problem if someone else's neighborhood gets destroyed, Tim. It may not impact you directly. But that's even MORE reason for you to do 30 seconds of research on the topic before you just decide to vote no because you're pissed about the first casino amendment passing.

    School closings in Tremont have absolutely no impact what-so-ever on me. But if there was an issue on the ballot that might help out your neighborhood, and you were supporting it, I might consider at doing a little research before I started speaking out against it.

    At the very least I would have the courtesy to shut the hell up if I didn't know what I was talking about.

  • you prove my point.

    what you identify, and what Issue 2 exists to “fix” is inherently a local issue, but was sold statewide and voted into the STATE constitution in perpetuity. to “fix” this LOCAL problem, they are now going again, to the STATE, to fix a local problem STATEWIDE, because this entire thing was done via the STATE constitution.

    a school closing in Tremont has nothing to do with you, correct. that's why no one advocates putting the SCHOOL'S ADDRESS INTO THE STATE CONSTITUTION. it should be handled locally.

    where are all these small government federalists? what happened to the local control fetishists? i bet they were the ones most loudly arguing in favor of making these casinos perpetually state created business models. they'd scream bloody murder if we put school funding on the ballot to fix school funding, but they pat these rich bastards on the back while they laugh all the way to the bank.

    and i didn't hear anyone complaining about the location, joe, because YOU didn't complain about the location. all i heard from you, joe, was some laissez fair hypocrisy about live and let live, let me gamble, texas hold me, blah blah blah, while blissfully writing these folks' biz plan into state law for EVER.

    now you want to go to the well again, to force this state's voters to revise this state mandated business plan, to the absurd point of mandating the ADDRESS of the PLACE OF BUSINESS. i'm sorry, but i cannot be bothered with someone else's business plan to that degree of detail, unless it is my money that's being guaranteed by state law.

    one of us is standing on principal here, joe, and it ain't you. i didn't want state constitutional law to hand a license to print money to these people, and i don't want state constitutional law to change the address on their stationery for them. i don't know what you want, other than an easier drive to your card game.

  • chasewhiteside

    “I?m not actually interested in the reason why the address has to change.” Clearly.

    It's hard to disagree with you specifically because there are so few specifics in your reasoning, but, for what it's worth, I disagree profoundly:

    I did not support the constitutional amendment allowing a few, lucky people to operate casinos in our state, and neither did the majority of people in Central Ohio who now, in its passage, are doing what they can to minimize the consequences of language (in this case, yes, an address) they never got to choose in the first place.

    Your reasoning that it is somehow the fault of those in Central Ohio, or that this vote is desired by the casino operators as a change in “stationary”, disregards the reality of the situation entirely. It is hardly the fault of Columbus voters that the rest of the state passed an unfortunate law authorizing the building of a casino in their city, and it is actually quite principled to say that a community should indeed have the right to decide how and where the (constitutionally inevitable) structure will be built.

    Personally, I like SWOhio?s suggestion that, if you aren't from Central Ohio, you might consider leaving it blank.

  • mvirenicus

    Your comments might have changed my vote, joseph. You needn't worry either way tho. Enough people in ne ohio will vote yes to anthing with the word “casino” attached that if the people of columbus want it, they'll get it.


    Semi- Autobiographical…?http://www.timrusso.org/2010/04/dealing-with-asshole-voters/…but keep up the circular logic here bub…

  • i'm not saying it's the fault of the voters of central ohio. i'm saying this whole thing is like being in some weird episode of The Twilight Zone.

    if the voters of central ohio don't want the casino, why didn't they make Issue 2 a repeal? why not go all the way, and just get rid of the casino in Columbus with another statewide vote, instead of having a statewide vote on a change of address?

    as for leaving it blank….well, it's on the ballot, statewide. yet another level of absurdity. i feel like i just ate the brown acid.

    the whole thing is so surreal, i just intend to voice my disapproval by voting no.

    i don't want a few lucky people getting their license to print money written into the state constitution.

    i don't like that it's casino gambling, a regressive tax on the poor.

    i don't like that the state constitution is now basically an MS Word document which can be edited any time someone pays enough money to have the voters open the file and press “cut”, “paste”, “undo”.

    i don't like that even in the best case scenario the benefits to the people of Ohio are illusory.

    and i don't like that i have a change of address for some wealthy corporate welfare queen sitting on my fucking ballot.


  • modernesquire

    Well, Tim, the entire problem with your post is that the license has already been printed last November with the passage of Issue 2.

    You know what happens if this Issue fails? Dan Gilbert gets to build his casino in Columbus exactly where he wanted it all along.

    Voting against this issue doesn't change the fact that a select few are getting a constitutionally protected monopoly on casinos.

    I fail to see how advocating the defeat of this issue relates to any of your objections.

  • advocating the defeat of this issue relates to my objections because my objections are regarding the entire sordid, mutant, perverse, foul, reeking pit of crap.

    so i'll vote no.

  • modernesquire

    Well, Tim, then you were too busy paying attention to Obama and not this issue:

    Many people did criticize this amendment on the very specific grounds that it was too detailed, particularly when it came to location, that it would likely force endless future amendments.

    The people in Columbus specifically objected to it based on the stated location (which was decided without the input of the amendment drafters). The amendment did not create any means other than another constitutional amendment to change those locations, either.

    Again, I fail to see any reasoning in what you're saying, Tim. As someone who, like you, OPPOSED Issue 3 last fall.

    In fact, didn't Sandy mention this EXACT issue in our PlunderChat with her??

  • I still don't follow your logic, which benefits only those who want to build the casino, and not those who voted against it.

  • it does benefit only those who want to build the casino. this entire process, from the notion of putting it on the ballot in the first place, benefits only those who want to build the casino.

    i'm voting no as a protest to the entire process. these people get what they want anyway, every time.

  • so your reasoning, as someone opposed to Issue 3 at the time, is to vote for the logical extension of all of these criticisms you cite?

    um…no. the entire process is rotten to its core. the only choice i have, as a voter who objects to this process, is to either abstain and not use my vote, or vote no. i'm choosing to vote no.

  • The current downtown location is actually much closer for me, thank you very much.

    And I'm not hiding from the fact that I supported this thing from the beginning – with the current downtown location written into the amendment.

    Call me selfish for that. You're probably right.

    But THIS amendment is completely different.

    Issue 2's support comes primary from local groups and politicians who did not support the original amendment.

    The original amendment got on the ballot because casino companies paid millions to gather signatures.

    This issue got on the ballot because of grassroots campaigning and local state reps and senators who worked it through the right legislative process.

  • seditious

    Vote NO on Issue 2 if you enjoy pissing off the Columbus Dispatch and a very large insurance company.

  • Walter Thompson

    I am a so-called “tea-bagger” from SW Ohio, and I agree with you completely. I'm amazed that the idiot voters agreed to this in the first place. One of tea party principles is “Fiscal Responsibility”. So the majority of voters thought it would be fiscally responsible to go into a casino where you know you're gonna lose more than win?
    On this issue I'll turn to another tea party principle – LIMITED GOVERNMENT. For that reason, I plan to leave it blank because it does not concern our area. I should not be voting, or governing in areas that are of no concern or consequence to this area. Let the people who live in the affected area decide their fate.

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