Rachel just noted that Chapter 1 of the Obama presidency’s legislative history is over, and Chapter 2 begins today.? Agreed.? In Chapter 1, Rachel noted that the Republican strategy was…well….what we know it was. Crazed, hysterical, paranoid fantastical, apocalyptic cries of “NO!”? Agreed.? Guest Chris Hayes then argued that it’s now impossible for Republicans to do business with the president without enraging a Fox News base that now believes the world is about to end, and in response would pull them back.? Hayes then said he bets the Republicans will listen to that base.

Rachel then said that Chapter 2 would be unpredictable, because that answer isn’t really known yet.? This is where I disagreed with Rachel, and was reminded of this Art Bell phone call, in which I ask you to imagine the pilot flying a plane into military restricted air space in order to find UFO’s is the Republican Party.

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  • darkejournal

    chapter 2: lame duck (with republican majorities in house and senate)

  • mvirenicus

    that's some echo chamber in which you reside. ain't gonna happen in 2010 or 2012 unless obama and the dems find more ways to depress their base. completely possible, but i'm beginning to think they've learned their lesson. the ball is completely out of gop hands.

  • darkejournal

    i'm just watching the polls dude. you have your occasional outlier, and most leqan a little liberal, but for the most part they don't lie.

    i'm not trying to trash-talk you here. but i listen to my liberal friends, and they're all saying and doing the things i was saying and doing from 2004-2008. “i think we've learned our lesson” … “we just need to excite the base” … “we're still within striking distance in the polls” … etc., etc., etc. the trajectory has changed completely, and you can't talk your way out of it. trust me. i've lived it. your next stop is rock bottom. power will always shift back and forth between the parties, but it has been amazing to see obama et al lose political capital so quickly.

    also, your base doesn't matter. obama won because the independents abandoned republicans over iraq. those same people are sprinting away from obama now over fiscal issues. your base can be 100% motivated and it won't matter without the independents, but even so, your base isn't motivated. much of obama's appeal was the “hope and change” of electing a black president. that motivation is gone now. are you ging to have 90% turnout in the inner cities? are those folks going to race to the polls to vote for strickland and fisher? you tell me.

  • mvirenicus

    the small matter missing from your equation is that obama/dems haven't royally fucked up the country in the way the republicans did. the jackass party is guilty of half-measures and foot dragging on trying to repair the damage, but they haven't exhibited the complete and utter hatred for america that the republicans so proudly flaunt. the gop won't be winning back either congressional chamber in 2010 or 2012.

  • politicaloutcast

    So you have not been paying attention for the last few days?

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