There is nothing more useless in our democratic system of government than a Green Party candidate.  I can’t think of a single organization that has been more self-defeating to its goals than the Green Party (well, maybe NAMBLA, but that’s hardly good company.)

Lately, no-shot Green Party gubernatorial candidate has been on a blogsphere tear criticizing Governor Strickland for allegedly not supporting wind power and alternative energy.

In one post, the Green Party’s candidate applauded MA Governor’s for announcing that parties are entering into, but have not reached, an agreement for an utility to purchase electricity from a proposed wind farm.  (In other words, announcing that the parties are considering proposing a deal, in the future, to maybe buy something, in the future, that presently doesn’t even exist yet):

“Here you have a Governor who believes in Wind Turbine power to help energize his state, unlike our own Governor Strickland.” said Dennis Spisak, Green Party Candidate for Ohio Governor. “Ohio needs a governor like Patrick who believes in Green power. I am that candidate. Governor Strickland and John Kasich only give lip service to becoming a renewable enery state. They still believe in dirty coal to bring Ohio out of this energy recession, a move that will not work.” Spisak concluded.

In another post, Spisak again criticized Strickland for supposedly not supporting wind power for the the Great Lakes region.

 

In a third post within this week, Spisak then attacks Strickland again over wind power while praising California:

“California and even Wyoming announced plans to build wind turbine farms to make gains in renewable energy while Ted Strickland and Ohio stands still.” said Spisak. “We have the land, work force, and facilities to build such farms, but Governor Strickland continues to work with dirty coal plants to fuel Ohio’s Future. This is the wrong direction for the 21st Century.” he added.

PG&E in California has to get 20% of its renewable power on grid by 2010 to meet the California RPS, and has just announced that it has contracted with Iberdrola Renewables, Inc., the U.S. arm of the world?s largest provider of wind power, to purchase and operate a major wind generating plant, to send clean electrons from Kern County?s Tehachapi region to Northern California PG&E customers.

The problem for Spisak is that Governor Strickland supports and has enacted policies to do everything the Green Party claims Strickland opposes.

In 2008, Strickland introduced and signed into law legislation that will require 1/4 of all of electricity generated in Ohio to come from clean “green” energy.

As a result of Strickland’s energy policy, FirstEnergy announced a $12 million project to convert some of their coal-burning plants into the world’s largest biomass in the United States and one of the largest in the world.

In May of this year, Governor Strickland addressed the opening session of the Windpower 2009 conference held by the American Wind Energy Association in which the Governor advocated wind farms all along the Ohio Turnpike region.

Ohio Governor Ted Strickland talks about wind energy in Ohio

 

On November 30, 2009, Governor Strickland announced $14 million in federal stimulus grant awards to promote the implementation of wind and solar energy technologies in Ohio.  The grant money will fund some 25 wind and solar projects in Ohio.

 

Governor Strickland, working with the Ohio Board of Regents, has even created nine Centers at Ohio’s universities dedicated to the study and research into the development of advanced green energy technologies.  Governor Strickland made the announcement shortly before hosting thirteen Appalachian States that make up the Appalachian Region Commission (ARC) to discuss changing coal-based economies in the Appalachian region into green collar incubators.

 

On TUESDAY, the Governor announced another $150 million dollars in state assistance to Ohio’s green collar businesses.  Strickland’s commitment to renewable energy policy has won his accolades throughout the national environmental community

In other words, the Green Party candidate is full of shit, I mean, biofuels.

Ohio has never had a Governor who has even promised, let alone deliver, as much of a commitment to renewable energy has Ted Strickland has achieved in his first-term alone.

One reason Strickland shows such weak support among members of his own parties is due to the very kind of misconception smug, know-nothings like the Green Party say about him.

 
  • breaking: Former Strickland staffer, Brian Hester, endorses Ted Strickland for Governor.

  • When will Strickland insist that all electricty 4/4 come from Clean GREEN
    Energy?

    Until then, Strickland is bowing to the dirty coal lobbyists in Ohio……

  • modernesquire

    Nice dodge, Dennis. But the fact remains that you've been saying all week that Strickland doesn't support wind energy. You are a busted liar. Is NY, CA, MA, WY going entirely to clean green energy? No, you concede that they aren't. And yet you praised them because you claimed that Gov. Strickland isn't doing the same thing in Ohio even though he already has and much more.

    I'd note that in NONE of your posts I mentioned do you call for Strickland to turn Ohio's entire electrical grid over to green energy.

    BTW, the metals forged to make your windmills? Yeah, those furnances are fueled by COAL.

    But you keep claiming you'd somehow do better despite the fact that anything you want to do would have to pass through a General Assembly that you'd have nobody in your party to support you.

  • modernesquire

    Breaking: Despite the fact that Ken Blackwell got his ass handed to him and Mike DeWine narrowly lost and actually got 300,000 more votes than Blackwell, Blackwell's campaign blogger still out there claiming it was *DeWine* that was a drag on the Republican ticket and Republican turnout.

    How does it make you feel Naugle knowing that had the GOP ran a competitive candidate for Governor in 2006 instead of the hopeless campaign of Ken Blackwell, Sherrod Brown likely wouldn't be in the U.S. Senate right now?

    Frankly, I should thank you and the rest of the ineffective communication team of the Blackwell campaign. We wouldn't have been able to pull it out in 2006 without you, buddy!

  • mvirenicus

    strickland needs better communications. i wasn't aware that he is anything but a conservative dem from a coal region leading a hopelessly backward state.

  • Bemused

    Another day, another pathetic Strickland defense from former Strickland staffer Brian Hester, who pretends to be some kind of “jornalist” yet routinely fails to disclose his former employment.

    And before you even go there, Brian, can you simply address why you don't post disclosure statements on your pro-Strickland hyperventilation without attacking the person asking the question. You've heard it from the right, from the left, and from me, whom you still cannot characterize (you've accused me of being both a Green and a Republican — make up your mind). Just answer the frickin question — why do you not post disclosures?

    The need for such disclosure is very apparent from the above load of tripe. Here are just a few of your departures from planet Truth:

    1. You say “As a result of Strickland?s energy policy, FirstEnergy announced a $12 million project to convert some of their coal-burning plants into the world?s largest biomass in the United States and one of the largest in the world.” However, you don't say that it was Strickland who pushed the AMP coal plant in Meigs County in the first place, and wanted to use Washington “advanced energy” funds to build that plant, though it would employ no “advanced” technology. It's the utility companies that now want to convert those projects — AGAINST what Strickland pushed.

    2. “Biomass” is NOT green energy. You and your Ted-master are about ten years out of date. It is well established that current ethanol technology is a NET ENERGY CONSUMER. That's why the Obama DOE does not push biomass. Strickland pushes biomass only because it's a ruse for aiding corn farmers in Ohio AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

    3. If Strickland is such a green energy fanatic, you might want to explain why his “Clean Energy” plan for Ohio defined nuclear and “clean coal” as sources of “clean energy” and as qualifying for advanced energy assistance funding. This was opposed by the Sierra Club and every other environmental group in the state. In fact, the wrangling over that issue is what has held up clean energy implementation for three years under Strickland. The surrogates that Strickland sends around to hawk clean energy can't even answer the question of why nuclear and coal are included in the Governor's plan.

    4. The Governor's real intentions were clarified last June when he joined George Voinovich and Jean Schmidt in a shameless promo event hosted by GOP-manic USEC corporation at the Piketon federal reservation. There, Strickland pitched a nuclear reactor for Piketon, but since that day, not a single sheet of paper proposing a reactor has been submitted to DOE. In other words, there IS NO nuclear reactor proposal, but Strickland's performance has effectively stopped movement toward any realistic alternative plan.

    Chickens come home to roost, Brian. This governor has proven himself so much in the pocket of the coal and nuclear companies, so cronyist in his behavior, so corrupt in his adherence to any principle, OF COURSE OHIOANS ARE GOING TO FLOCK TO ANY ALTERNATIVE.

    So go ahead an blow a fuse every time the truth is spoken about your old boss. You'll be blowing lots of fuses between now and next November.

    9 points. Kasich is now up by 9 points. And that's not accounting for a strong Green challenge. How many points will Spisak cost? 1, 2, 3? How many does SPAM-energy Ted have to spare?

    Alternatives? ANY alternative is preferable to the guy we got now. Because Ohioans need and deserve the truth above all.

  • scottpullins

    Um, I cannot possibly imagine how Brian could disclose any more. Its all on this website for anyone to see.

  • modernesquire

    Geoffrey— all the people, like yourself, pointing out my connection to Strickland LEARNED ABOUT IT FROM MY OWN DISCLOSURE OF THAT FACT YEARS AGO. You can't slight me for not disclosing things you've learned solely through my disclosure of them.

    There is no such thing as a strong Green challenge. I heard this nonsense plenty in 2006. The Green Party candidate, a guy with some actual claim to some name recognition, came BEHIND the Liberterian candidate. In other words, dead last.

    I cited Spisak as an example, you'd work too, of how progressives are dispiriting Democratic turnout with a false narrative. The reality is that Ted Strickland has done more to facilitate the creation of green collar jobs than any candidate has ever even promised, let alone deliver.

    You know who supports increased domestic oil drilling and more nuclear energy ? David Krikorian: http://www.krikorianforcongress.com/blog/?p=22

    http://browncountypress.com/main.asp?SectionID=

    You know, the self-described “Blue Dog” “Reagan Conservative” you've been shoving down our throats because you've been serving as an advisor to his campaign. Yeah, but you've not said a single word criticizing him for have an energy policy that promotes more use of domestic fossil fuels and nuclear energy. Just criticism of Strickland, hypocrite.

    You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass. You flat out lied so many times about Krikorian, I'd get carpel tunnel if I had to type out all the things you've flat out made up.

  • greenferret

    For a website posing as 'progressive', you sure have a lot of contempt for democracy.

  • modernesquire

    Sorry, I missed when calling out no-nothing so-called “progressives” who are helping elect anti-environmental Republicans with their entirely false claims that elected Democrats are really anti-environmental is a contempt for democracy.

    Your statement is reflective of really how contemptous Greens are for democracy. They never handle criticism or any suggestion that they don't know best. Look at your gubernatorial candidate. He's claiming he's going to do all these things and yet refuses to answer the most basic questions like, how could he possible get these things passed by a State Senate controlled by the GOP? Point out to the Green that they've never done anything to enact a single policy to help the environment, and you guys go nuts.

  • greenferret

    “Point out to the Green that they've never done anything to enact a single policy to help the environment, and you guys go nuts.”

    I know you'll miss the irony, but I like how you label Greens “no-nothing” when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

  • modernesquire

    I love it when people claim I don't know what I'm talking about, and yet, cannot point out a single thing wrong with my post. Fact is that Ted Strickland has done every one of the things I listed, and the Green Party doesn't have a single pro-environment achievement it can claim as its own.

  • greenferret

    I can point out plenty that's wrong with your post, but I make it a rule not to argue with people who revel in their own ignorance. Your claim that “the Green Party doesn't have a single pro-environment achievement it can claim as its own” shows that you've done no research on the subject. Just thought I'd drop in to let you know you'll have to try harder if you want to convince anyone other than yourself.

  • So clear it up for me and the rest of the PB readers. Name an achievement. I'm not aware of one either. It's tough to have any when you don't get elected.

  • mvirenicus

    i feel confident that more people will be voting green as the painfully obvious fact emerges that nothing changes in the life of the average voter regardless of which major party candidate they choose. the voters wanted change over the last couple cycles. where is it?

  • greenferret

    All righty, if you guys are so unwilling to do ten minutes of google research, I'll help you out. Here's one: Greens wrote and passed into law the first municipal plastic bag ban in North America.

    Since I answered your question, how about you answer mine: is the reason you are not aware of Green officeholders and their achievements because you didn't bother to look it up?

    “It's tough to have any when you don't get elected.”

    You are aware that Dennis Spisak is an elected officeholder, right? What was that again about “smug alerts”?

    Look, if there's a progressive bone in your body, then stop using the Democratic Party to deny other Americans the right to association with the party of their choice. In 2004, Greens and Libertarians led the effort to prove that Kenneth Blackwell suppressed the Democratic vote in Ohio to rig the election for Bush. In return, the Democrats do all they can to keep Greens off the ballot and force them to jump through all sorts of hoops merely to participate in allegedly democratic elections. If you'd rather support a party that gives you nice rhetoric along with endless wars, bailouts for billionaires, and the continued erosion of civil liberties, that's your choice, but don't rob me of my choice to support a truly progressive party that doesn't take corporate money.

    If any of you know American history, you should understand that third parties have brought about major changes even without winning elections. Abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, the right to unionize, child labor laws, the minimum wage, and more all came from outside the two-party system. So if there are any real progressives on here who care more about progress than the fortunes of the blue team, don't try to hold back the Greens – you'll only hurt the causes we all care about.

  • Municipal plastic bag ban! Weeee doggie! Save the world, brother. Save the world. LOL.

    Listen. I say that in jest. I think it's great that Green Party candidates can get elected and do great things locally. I guess my point is they don't have – and most likely never will have – the power to do anything larger than a municipal plastic bag ban or two.

    Elected officeholder. Spisak. Right. School board? Got it.

    You can support whatever political party you want. I choose to support one that can actually – you know – win elections! That was my main point. I challenge you to point to a legislative achievement and you point me to a municipal plastic bag ban?

    I can't make my point much better than you did. Thanks.

    I think Modern may want to argue another thing third parties gave us: George W. Bush. 😉

  • modernesquire

    This is a joke, right? A municipal ban on plastic grocery bags (that the Ohio Green Party had nothing to do with) gives the Ohio Green Party's gubernatorial candidate free reign to go out and falsely claim that Ted Strickland doesn't support wind and solar energy when he's enacted numerous policies to promote them and secured millions of dollars to promote the industry?

    How, exactly, does the Green Party help the environmental cause that we all care about by telling people not to support Ted Strickland by falsely suggesting he opposes policies he actually supports and has a noteable record of achievement? By doing so, your gubernatorial candidate has basically said that no amount of support for our causes is going to stop us from campaigning against you– even if it requires us to falt out lie about your record. Pretty sure the abolitionist party never did that.

    And for every third-party that ended slaverly, there have been a dozen who's biggest claim to fame is that they got one city to settle the great “Paper v. Plastic” debate at the supermarket. Somehow I don't think the Green Party measures up to well to the “successful” third-parties in our nation's history.

    Also, they didn't so much come from outside the third-party as that their causes were ultimately adopted by one of the two major parties. So, again, what's the wisdom of lying about a major party candidate when he is, in reality, supporting and adopting your causes as your own?!?

  • ryanfissel

    Dennis – just my two cents but going completely green at one time is impossible. Besides, ethanol, wind and solar power combined would not be able to provide even half of the energy we need each day.

    The real goal is fuel cells. Lets focus on new technology.

  • greenferret

    What can I say. You're not the first Democrat I've seen who drips smug contempt for the people who run in local elections and make real change in their communities, and you probably won't be the last. If you really think it's great when Greens can run and win elections, tell your party to stop creating ballot access laws that discriminate against small parties. If you want to support a party that gives us endless wars and answers every economic problem with corporate welfare, that's your prerogative, but the playing field should be level so that those citizens who want to support an actual progressive party have the opportunity.

    By the way, if Democrats truly believed that Nader cost them the 2000 election, they could pass instant runoff voting, an improved voting system that eliminates any so-called 'spoiler effect'. They could have it in place for the 2010 elections, if they wanted.

  • greenferret

    You guys said that Greens didn't have any accomplishments, and asked me to name one. I did that, proving you wrong. You said Greens don't get elected. You were wrong about that as well. You do inadvertently raise a fair point, that Greens aren't the most successful of third parties, but a good historian could tell you that the main difference between now and the late 19th/early 20th century period, when third party candidates frequently won election to Congress and statewide offices, is the current regime of restrictive, discriminatory ballot access laws. These laws have been enacted by the Democratic and Republican parties to limit competition and protect incumbents. That historian could also tell you that third parties and outside movements like Civil Rights introduced all major progressive reforms in US history, and keeping them down has almost certainly been a factor in the lack of progress in modern US history. If you made a wish list for the modern progressive movement, it would be comprised of things that have been in the Green platform for years. But if Greens are excluded from debates and have to spend all their resources simply fighting to be on the ballot, the entire public discourse suffers. Without Eugene Debs' campaigns, would there have been a New Deal? Maybe not.

    Anyway, it's been real, it's been fun, it's been real fun.

  • I support IRV. I don't have contempt for people who run and win local elections ande make real change in their community. I have contempt for people who try to claim significant environmental legislation by pointing to the municipal banning of plastic bags.

    You act as though all war would end if we could only elect a Green. LOL. Delusional.

    As I've said. I have no problem with the Greens. Just don't think you can take pot shots at a party that has actually accomplished many of the things you say you are fighting for. It's counter-productive.

  • mvirenicus

    eric has apparently never heard of the menshevics or bolshevics. it's typical of those engrossed in american politics to not see the forest for the trees. if things continue as they are, those obsessed with keeping everything within the “ballot box” will be in for a rude awakening. i actually foresee an odd alliance of right-wing constitutionalists and leftists of all stripes bringing critical mass against the corporatists currently running the country.

  • modernesquire

    I think implied in that was MEANINGFUL accomplishments. Regardless, I never said that the Green Party hasn't had ANY success in elections. I flat out pointed out that Spistak has done NOTHING in his school board position for the environment.

    The Civil Rights movement was not a third-party movement. Not even close.

  • LOL. No seriously. LOL!

  • modernesquire

    You know all those policies you support to promote green energy technologies? Yeah, they're corporate welfare, too.

  • mvirenicus

    sadly, i agree.

  • mvirenicus

    eric, the right has held sway in world politics for the last few decades. the recent *true* leftward tilt in latin emerica is only a foreboding. if capitalism survives longer than the few decades left to my life (granted, i assume much here) i'll eat dirt before i take my dirt nap. 🙂

  • greenferret

    What can I say. You're not the first Democrat I've seen who drips smug contempt for the people who run in local elections and make real change in their communities, and you probably won't be the last. If you really think it's great when Greens can run and win elections, tell your party to stop creating ballot access laws that discriminate against small parties. If you want to support a party that gives us endless wars and answers every economic problem with corporate welfare, that's your prerogative, but the playing field should be level so that those citizens who want to support an actual progressive party have the opportunity.

    By the way, if Democrats truly believed that Nader cost them the 2000 election, they could pass instant runoff voting, an improved voting system that eliminates any so-called 'spoiler effect'. They could have it in place for the 2010 elections, if they wanted.

  • greenferret

    You guys said that Greens didn't have any accomplishments, and asked me to name one. I did that, proving you wrong. You said Greens don't get elected. You were wrong about that as well. You do inadvertently raise a fair point, that Greens aren't the most successful of third parties, but a good historian could tell you that the main difference between now and the late 19th/early 20th century period, when third party candidates frequently won election to Congress and statewide offices, is the current regime of restrictive, discriminatory ballot access laws. These laws have been enacted by the Democratic and Republican parties to limit competition and protect incumbents. That historian could also tell you that third parties and outside movements like Civil Rights introduced all major progressive reforms in US history, and keeping them down has almost certainly been a factor in the lack of progress in modern US history. If you made a wish list for the modern progressive movement, it would be comprised of things that have been in the Green platform for years. But if Greens are excluded from debates and have to spend all their resources simply fighting to be on the ballot, the entire public discourse suffers. Without Eugene Debs' campaigns, would there have been a New Deal? Maybe not.

    Anyway, it's been real, it's been fun, it's been real fun.

  • I support IRV. I don't have contempt for people who run and win local elections ande make real change in their community. I have contempt for people who try to claim significant environmental legislation by pointing to the municipal banning of plastic bags.

    You act as though all war would end if we could only elect a Green. LOL. Delusional.

    As I've said. I have no problem with the Greens. Just don't think you can take pot shots at a party that has actually accomplished many of the things you say you are fighting for. It's counter-productive.

  • mvirenicus

    eric has apparently never heard of the menshevics or bolshevics. it's typical of those engrossed in american politics to not see the forest for the trees. if things continue as they are, those obsessed with keeping everything within the “ballot box” will be in for a rude awakening. i actually foresee an odd alliance of right-wing constitutionalists and leftists of all stripes bringing critical mass against the corporatists currently running the country.

  • modernesquire

    I think implied in that was MEANINGFUL accomplishments. Regardless, I never said that the Green Party hasn't had ANY success in elections. I flat out pointed out that Spistak has done NOTHING in his school board position for the environment.

    The Civil Rights movement was not a third-party movement. Not even close.

  • LOL. No seriously. LOL!

  • modernesquire

    You know all those policies you support to promote green energy technologies? Yeah, they're corporate welfare, too.

  • mvirenicus

    sadly, i agree.

  • mvirenicus

    eric, the right has held sway in world politics for the last few decades. the recent *true* leftward tilt in latin emerica is only a foreboding. if capitalism survives longer than the few decades left to my life (granted, i assume much here) i'll eat dirt before i take my dirt nap. 🙂

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