I’m catching a little flak for my intentionally nasty post about Pam Geller and her comments at yesterday’s anti-Muslim rally in Columbus. So I thought I’d take a second to clarify.

Pam Geller and her pals are horrible human beings who spread hate and lies while pretending to care about the civil and religious rights of Rifqa Bary merely because she happens to be from a Muslim family. Geller and crew have absolutely no limits and will say and do whatever they think is necessary to force their culture of intolerance on the rest of us.

Multiple state and county groups have found absolutely no credibility to the claims that Rifqa’s parents in any way, shape or form abused her. But Pam continues to insist they did. Not only is she attacking the family based on disproven information, she’s also accusing the county and the foster family caring for Rifqa of complicity in this non-existent abuse. (along with the President and any one else who disagrees with her)

Say what you want about my angry and rude post, but every single word of it was true. Unlike nearly all of Pam’s comments. Pam’s pants ARE too long. Her accent IS annoying. And she has absolutely no clue what she is talking about.

Not polite, to be sure. But at least true.

There are plenty of really good progressive bloggers who are polite and respectful of the people with whom they disagree. And, to be fair, there are plenty of conservatives who are deserving of respect and politeness and are willing to engage in an honest discussion about real issues.

Pam Geller, however, is not one of the latter. So I see no reason to be the former.

I fully understand that engaging religious nuts like Pam with the standard, dreamy, unprofane and hopeful “why can’t we all just get along” progressive counterpoints leaves most bloggers on the left quite satisfied while giving them, dare I say, a smug sense of superiority.

And while I have great respect for writers who can pull this off, it doesn’t really work for me. I’m just not that good of a writer and, to be honest, I really don’t think people like Pam Geller deserve my respect or my politeness.

It seems to me that trying to engage people like Pam Geller in civil, fact-based discourse is like trying to convince a hungry tiger to use a litter box. She’s just going to eat you and then shit wherever she wants. So why bother?

I know saying things like Pam Geller is an ignorant, loud-mouthed, hate-mongering windbag may not accomplish much, but it sure does make me feel a lot better. And if a few people are offended, then so be it. I just hope one of them is Pam Geller.

I hope this clears everything up.

 
  • “It seems to me that trying to engage people like Pam Geller in civil, fact-based discourse is like trying to convince a hungry tiger to use a litter box. She?s just going to eat you and then shit wherever she wants. So why bother?”

    Hereby nominated for analogy of the week

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  • “And while I have great respect for writers who can pull this off, it doesn?t really work for me. [snip] I really don?t think people like Pam Geller deserve my respect or my politeness. “

    Yes! A thousand times, yes! No more pussified liberals! It's past time to use their own offensive, dirty tactics on right-wing, fundie, conservatard, tin-foil hatters (some decorated tastefully with tea bags!).

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  • jeffhess

    Shalom Joseph,

    As the flacker — please not to be confused with a flack catcher — here, please understand that I get your message. I have no doubt that Geller is a sorry waste of human genome and lower, as we Navy types like to say, than whale shit.

    I do not think that comments on pants or accents — Arianna Huffington's accent drives me nuts — adds to the discussion, but actually weakens the power of what you're saying.

    B'shalom,

    Jeff

  • I have to agree with the Huffington accent point here. Ugh. Grating.

  • Pho

    Bottom line, Pam Geller doesn't deserve your respect, but people from Long Island don't deserve your scorn just because they happen to share an accent with a crazy person.

  • I lived in NYC off and on for nearly a decade and I don't feel any ill will specifically against people from Long Island (Staten Island is a different story).

    But I'm originally from Ohio and I live in Ohio now and I find it pretty offensive that some annoying, smart-ass, out-of-state conservatard (to quote MrsBitch) is going to come here and accuse my local government and one of our local foster care families of being aligned with Islamic extremists.

  • dirtgirl

    full disclosure: Joe fails to mention he lived on Long Island.

  • Pho

    Bottom line, Pam Geller doesn't deserve your respect, but people from Long Island don't deserve your scorn just because they happen to share an accent with a crazy person.

  • I lived in NYC off and on for nearly a decade and I don't feel any ill will specifically against people from Long Island (Staten Island is a different story).

    But I'm originally from Ohio and I live in Ohio now and I find it pretty offensive that some annoying, smart-ass, out-of-state conservatard (to quote MrsBitch) is going to come here and accuse my local government and one of our local foster care families of being aligned with Islamic extremists.

  • dirtgirl

    full disclosure: Joe fails to mention he lived on Long Island.

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