Frank Rich often leaves me thinking after I read his columns, and today is no exception. I do some work with a group focused on youth civic engagement, so I was interested in Rich?s reference to a new NYT/CBS poll showing that the percentage of young people (ages 17-29) who self-ID as Republicans has fallen to 25 percent (from a high of 37 percent in the 1980s).

Sounds good to me, but I wanted to know about the flip side: what percentage of young people self-ID as Dems in this new poll? After much searching, I couldn?t find the full results from this poll (which was very annoying). I did find this data from June via Youth Voter Strategies (another group I have done some work with):

?Next year, are you more likely to vote in a Democratic presidential primary or caucus, or a Republican primary or caucus?? (CBS/NY Times/MTV, June 2007)

Among 17- to 29-year-olds:
45% Democrat
25% Republican
15% Not likely to vote
15% Don?t know

Maybe this is the poll Rich is citing?

(Youth Voter Strategies also shared some other polls from June on the same subject?thee results can be found here).

Back to Rich?s point?he claims that Rove?s legacy, far from establishing a permanent Republicans majority, has damaged his party beyond repair for at least a generation. He quotes a young conservative commentator, Ryan Sager, following the silly Iowa straw poll as writing, ?The face of the Republican Party in Iowa is the face of a losing party, full of hatred towards immigrants, lust for government subsidies, and the demand that any Republican seeking the office of the presidency acknowledge that he is little more than Jesus Christ?s running mate.?

Wow. If that?s how young Republican?s view the legacy of Karl Rove, I have hope for the future of both parties.

(Sorry for not linking to Rich’s column. Seems the hasn’t gotten rid of Times Select yet.)