x-posted at Progress Ohio

Here’s a lovely little story. For a week now, I’ve been hearing that the wife of Scott Pullins, Kathryn Elliott Pullins, has been contacting several bloggers and trying to get them to delete comments and posts, and generally intimidate people into not blogging about Scott – especially in a bad light. I didn’t think much of it until we got a call on Monday.

Phone rings. I pick it up. Female voice. “Is Holly there?”. “Sure, hang on”, I say, figuring it for a massage client or a friend of Holly’s whose voice I didn’t know. I don’t start paying attention until Holly starts raising her voice saying something about not appreciating the caller calling our home and threatening her. The following are several exchanges that Holly and Kathryn had. They are not in chronological order according to Holly and there are other parts of the conversation that happened but are not included here:

Kathryn: You don’t know me, but my name is Kathryn Pullins, I live in Knox County, my husband is Scott Pullins.

Holly: OK

Kathryn: Your husband owns a website called Plunderbund

Holly: Yes

Kathryn: On that website your husband has continually posted things about my husband. Is your husband an attorney?

Holly: No

Kathryn: Are you an attorney?

Holly: No

Kathryn: Do you have a job?

Holly: Yes

Kathryn: Does your husband have a job?

Holly: Yes

Kathryn: Are you homeowners?

Holly: Yes [Eric says: Ladies and gentleman, my wife has spectacular patience]

Kathryn: OK. Well my husband IS an attorney and I have asked your husband to remove a post that is attacking our business, and I have not heard back from him. I am a calling you to let you know that if the post is not taken down, we will file a lawsuit against you, and we can garnish your wages, and your husbands wages, and take your home.

[More in the extended]

Holly: I understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t appreciate you calling my home and threatening me and my family with a lawsuit. Don’t call my home and threaten me!

Kathryn: I’m not saying we are going to file a lawsuit, I’m saying we could file a lawsuit I’m just trying to speak to you wife to wife because you and your husband are partners, and you stand to lose everything if he doesn’t remove that post.

Holly: OK. I don’t follow my husbands blog. I have nothing to do with my husband’s blog.

Kathryn: Well he continually allows JOSEPH, who posts anonymously, to post things about my husband, and now he’s attacking our business, and i am sick and tired of this. I’m not going to put up with this anymore.

Holly: OK. Can you please tell me your names again so that i can go back throught the blog and read the threads so that i can be more educated when talking to my husband?

Kathryn: Yes. Our last name is Pullins. P-U-L-L-I-N-S.

Holly: OK. I will go back through and read the posts so that i can know what’s going on. So what you are saying is that JOSEPH recently posted something that you want removed from the site, and Eric has not responded to your email request to remove the posting?

Kathryn: That’s correct. If joseph was man enough to include his email in his post, I would have contacted him directly, but since he’s not, and since your husband owns the blog, it’s his responsibility, and you guys are the one’s that are going to end up getting sued. If not by us, by someone else down the road.

So first off, the supposed offending post is basically a completely fact-based post about a recent job posting. There is absolutely no attack on their business whatsoever. From my reading of it, Joseph is merely giving his opinion as to the nature of the lawsuit against a “cyberstalker” (ie meaningless), and his opinion about Scott (Crazy-Ass Attorney, Esquire). There is ample sarcasm, but the majority of the post is the actual publicly available job posting.

There are several things about this I don’t understand. First and foremost, I never got any email from a Kathryn Pullins. Not one. I’m pretty good at this Internet thing, but responding to emails I haven’t received yet is beyond even my capabilities. Secondly, she COULD have asked for me when she called – having answered the phone myself – and we could have had a civil conversation in which I would have informed her that I would most certainly not remove the post. If she wants to take up negative things being blogged about her husband, my advice would be to take it up with him. Given his past behavior and gutter level political machinations, how could she think there were not people out there who disliked Scott and would actively seek ways to communicate such?

Honestly, I’d say Scott reaps what he sows in this regard and Kathryn would do better to ask him to seek redemption and apologize for past deeds. I know this would be the course I’d take and advice I’d give friends. You can’t go that low and then claim to take the high road and shout victim!

Kathryn decided to pull a punk move and ask ME to speak to my wife Holly and threaten to take our house and garnish my and her wages. I can’t say whether or not Scott put her up to it , but it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

This conversation took place 5 MINUTES before we were to leave for a cookout with some of our best friends on a holiday weekend. It seemed to me like pure intimidation and a pathetic attempt to get to me by upsetting my wife. That last part worked. The sight of Holly crying is something I don’t think I’ll ever get used to.

So congratulations. You made my wife cry. Happiness in life is directly proportional to the amount of good you put out into the world. Here’s wishing you both a life of happiness commensurate with your deeds.

  • Wow.

  • batguano

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  • Michael

    Sounds like stalking to me, perhaps your wife should sue her and garnish her wage and the wage of her husband and take away their home…

  • I guess that’s the advantage of being a female blogger, I don’t think anyone would call my husband to complain about something I’d blogged about.

    I also guess I would suggest that since Kathy Pullins made the comment that Joseph wasn’t “man enough” to include his email, one wonders why Scott Pullins was not “man enough” to contact people directly rather than have his wife do it for him.

    I strongly dislike people trying to use strong arm tactics to control what someone blogs. I’ve experienced it and personally it makes me just blog about it more.

  • #4: You and me both LR. You and me both! I was “man enough”, however, to revise my original post. I’m sure I’ll be getting plenty of thanks for that along with editing out very nasty things in comments about Kathryn here.

  • #3: Nah. Only happened the one time. To my knowledge there have been no vans outside my house or taps on my phones. I’m pretty sure this was just an isolated incident. Plus, I’d never threaten to attempt to take away someone’s house for getting on my nerves by blogging bad things about me (ask D’ickman). Well, I guess If I were an evil bastard I might. Hell, I guess if I were a REAL evil bastard I might even go after the person who hosts the blog. 😉

  • curious mind

    Kathy was in court today – on the illegal subpoena hearing – her husband, Scotty even at the last minute, tried to ‘settle’ this out of Court – no go Scotty

    First of all, she found where I was sitting, and insulted me…..I of course announced to the Courtroom exactly what she had said – her father then introduced himself to me, and I let him know that I knew who he was because he follows me and takes my pictures from time to time

    That being said……..Kathy Pullins stood outside the Courtroom as everyone was leaving the hearing and insulted each and every member as being a ‘skank,’ a ‘fat pig,’ etc. Over and over and over

    I used to feel sorry for Kathy Pullins. I now realize that she’s as much of a viper as her husband…….

  • Holly Vessels

    #7. That’s interesting. The reason I stayed on the phone with her as long as I did was because I felt sorry for her. I assumed she had nothing to do with all the negative blogging, and just wanted her family left alone. Oh how naive I’ve been…

  • Shelley

    Oh don’t feel the least little bit sorry for her. After hearing her call people names in court today, she is exactly where she deserves to be. How sad would it be to be 3 people in a courtroom against 25 or 30? How alone must they feel! GET A FREAKING CLUE PEOPLE! YOU ARE DOING IT TO YOURSELF. Keep up the good work Kathy, you are working wonders for your husband! I am sure he is proud of the way that you acted..oh wait, who are we talking about here.

  • curious mind

    Holly – don’t feel sorry for her – she looked at me, and told me I was as ugly as my pictures in the paper – she then proceeded to call one of my friend’s husband a fat pig, and remarked to an Apple Valley Property Owner Association that she was a skank – I missed the rest of her rhetoric – I just wanted to get out of there –

    Kathy is a vindictive, malicious, viper who probably rules the roost at home – if you want to see the video of what happened today, go to http://www.mountvernonnews.com – most of it is there……….happy viewing……

  • Jesus. Good luck dealing with this craziness. And just know that if it ever comes to that, which I suspect it won’t, the case law (sketchy though it is just now) is entirely on your side. The Society of Professional Journalists and the Electronic Frontier Foundation would be worth contacting, if it comes to that, as both have been known to help with defense of such cases when freedom of expression is at issue.

  • #11: Thanks John. I’ve been in contact with some attorneys and also the EFF. I’m not worried at all.

    After viewing the video that #10 linked to I’m left wondering if Holly will get an “unqualified apology”. Not gonna do any breath holding or anything.

  • Satan. God knows i had to talk my man down from beating the crap out of John Ettorre after he posted numerous nasty shit about me all over BFD last summer. I would have never tolerated a “call” over to the Ettorre residence – please.

  • It’s entirely my personal opinion that Kathy is a dumb biatch.

  • Shelley

    Yeah, don’t hold your breath. The judge had to ask SEVERAL times, are you giving an unqualified apology? Oh it’s only just begun. Tomorrow should prove to be the icing on the cake.

  • curious mind


    I couldn’t have said it better – and I speak from personal experience – but, gee, maybe she’ll sue me for saying so……..oh hell, she’s ALREADY suing me…………

    Kathy Pullins stood at the door of the Courtroom and insulted each and every person as they left – calling them vicious, ugly names………am starting to understand just why Scotty’s the way he is

  • Shelley

    I hope that your attorney took note of everything that went on today. I can’t imagine that the wonderful Mrs. Pullins helped her husbands cause at all. I am surprised she didn’t jump up and call the judge a name when he was proving that Mr. Pullins was obviously acting in a manner that didn’t please the court!

  • curious mind

    My attorney was in the courtroom, and paying close attention to all that occurred.

    I will fill you in more about his background, expertise, and skills at litigation after tomorrow’s hearing – he is top notch – the best I could have in my defense

  • Anonymous? Not sure what Kathy means by that.

    My name is JOSEPH and I post on PB as, of course, JOSEPH.

    Also: I always respond to my JOSEPH@PLUNDERBUND.COM emails as well as posts or comments made here on Plunderbund.

  • Holly Vessels

    It’s becoming more and more clear to me what her true intentions were. I feel duped. And that just pisses me off. I don’t think I’ve ever been happier that my husband doesn’t get intimidated very easily! And now that I’m pissed off, I’m not feeling very intimidated either. BRING IT ON!!!

  • That’s the old pepper!

  • No one was called any names in any courtroom. Absolutely not true. Kathy asked nicely for bloggers to stop allowing comments about her and her vagina to be posted on their sites.

    My wife is not a public figure and I ask you to leave her alone and quit allowing obscene offensive posts to be made about her.

    Scott A. Pullins

  • Shelley

    Should have seen her true intentions today. The judge had to give her direction on what it means to answer yes or no. She didn’t quite get that concept. She thought she would use the stand as her platform to tell her story. It was actually quite entertaining. Please do not waste anymore of the taxpayers money with this nonsense.

  • Scott,

    No one here at PB gives a crap about your wife’s body parts.

    As a matter of fact, we edited out the nasty parts of the comments that did reference your wife.

    Also, I posted a response to those nasty comments in which I defended her.

    I’m sorry things aren’t going so well for you with your lawsuits and such- but we here at Plunderbund certainly had nothing to do with that.

  • curious mind

    Eric, I just reread the part where Mrs. Pullins stated that she would sue you, garnish your wages, blah, blah, blah.

    The next time she calls, please remind her that she must win her lawsuit first. Given the Judge’s lecture to Mr. Pullins at the end of the non-hearing, it should become clear to that family that 1) they cannot censor unfavorable opinions, and 2) that their track record for “wins” is abyssmal.

    I empathize with your wife, but am betting that she’s seeing the ‘entire’ picture now, and is no longer ‘afraid’ of the venomous Mrs. Pullins.

    If they do sue you, let me know, and I will give you the phone number of my Attorney, Phillip Lehmkuhl.

  • #22: Look, Scott. The only reason I even know about the vile comments made about your wife is because I read them at Progress Ohio as posted by YOU. I’m actually quite amazed that you would do that. I certainly hope Kathy is not too upset by your repetition of them!

    We’ve never once allowed posts or comments about Kathy’s vagina here. Don’t plan to either.

    I’d also like you to point out the obscene or offensive post here at Plunderbund regarding your wife.

    Your wife may or may not be a public figure at this point, but she decided to enter the fray by calling and threatening my wife. I’m not quite sure I understand what she means when she says “we” and “our”. Is she an attorney or sharing legal services with you? Have you authorized her to speak as an agent of your firm?

    At this point a simple apology would suffice and I’d ensure that offensive comments are not made about her here (which is no different than what we’ve done in the past). I won’t, however, make any promises as to posts about you. You’ve made that bed.

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