Update: Scott from Word of Mouth cuts through the crap pretty quick and makes a brilliant post about why MTB is so important.

Chris Geidner started it with this post, pointing out a comment made by Jill in this post (I know, blogger internal politics – yawn – but there is an important larger point to this). Jill writes about the MTB with Bill Pierce: “I particularly enjoyed a lengthy, substantive off the record conversation with Pierce and Tim Russo after the interview.”

Chris takes this to mean they talked about stuff that everyone should have been privy to given it is Meet The Bloggers and the purpose is to present all interviews without editing so the listeners can decide based on the total context. First problem: THE INTERVIEW WAS OVER! Get that? Good.

Then Chris posts again, comparing what appears to be apples and oranges to me and rips Russo again without appearing to have any real sound logic in doing so. Kos does try to sway mass opinion and does so without hiding it. There are legitimate questions there that don’t relate to whether or not Markos has OTR conversations with politicians – of course he does. Those questions might relate to someone saying “Crash The Gates”, but then turning on a true grassroots candidate and backing the establishment guy after ads have been placed and jobs have been handed out to friends. See the difference?

Of course, lead Russo-hater HeightsMom joins in the dogpile, says Chris hits the nail on the head. I’m yet to find hammer or nail. I could almost hear her over her morning coffee: “Eww…some dirt on Russo. Oh joy!”. No matter if it all smoke and mirrors.

Then we get Henry Gomez at the TechLink “weblog”, who joins in despite the fact that his own “blog” doesn’t allow comments. So much for accountability. I can’t even comment and say his piece is BS – how’s THAT for blogger ethics. Cleveland.com weblogs – where dissent is just not allowed no matter what potshots we throw out there. Lovely. Earth to Henry: Jill uses the word “teaser” in the title to hype the now posted audio clips on MTB. Please pay attention! You also miss the point badly about the comment that Chris should join the MTB process instead of throwing cheap shots. The point is if Chris wants to be a part of the conversations AFTER THE INTERVIEW IS OVER, then he should attend and be a part of it. He could then wrestle with his own ethics whether or not to blog about something that was asked to be off the record. The only thing MTB ever promised was to bring people the one hour of unedited and unscripted interviews. I don’t think they fail in this one bit. Henry, you are welcome to come too – you’re a semi-blogger.

Listen, the original piece was a Seinfeld post, as was the follow-up. One big heaping pile of nothing. The larger issue is a lesson in how blogs work. They tend to be self policing and I think this one is being self policed as we speak. I hope Chris will learn from it.

 
  • Russo’s got a big kick me sign on his back, I’m afraid. It’s interesting that some are looking for any excuse to dog pile on him.

  • I think that the word “substantive” is subjective is well.

    What may be important for Jill, and the issues dear to her, may not have much weight for others.
    I think Tim, in a comment somewhere said as much – that he didn’t write about it, because it wasn’t all that important (to him).

    Chris G., seems to have picked up what he thought was a substantive football and just started running with it. And of course, Cindy’s there to cheer him on.

    And what’s up with the “no feedback/no comments allowed” preaching coming from the PD – that definitely was, from my reading of it – an opinion piece.

  • Good one, Eric.

  • Thanks, Eric. As with BSB’s post on a similar theme, you too mentioned some stuff I’d included in an eventually unused comment I started to write last night. You know how sneaky they say I am: why do the dirty work when you all will do it for me?

    Oy.

    Thanks again.

  • Tech Link by no means is not perfect, Eric. I can appreciate your comments on the no-comments setup and any other constructive feedback.

    Unfortunately, whether or not Tech Link allows comments is not my decision. But I don’t think that has anything to do with accountability. My e-mail address and phone number appear with every story I write, and there is a link directly into my e-mail box on Tech Link.

    On today’s blog, I simply asked some questions. The questions I asked relating to Jill’s post (btw, I know what a “teaser” is in the context Jill uses … I was merely pointing out its double-meaning) have been answered. She’s responded on several blogs now that do allow comments. Jill also e-mailed me, and in a demonstration of my accountability, I responded.

    My other question was more about the habit of some bloggers who snipe at those who don’t attend MTB events when we ask questions. I can’t speak for Chris, but I wasn’t raising questions to offend everyone. I was raising questions out of curiosity. It’s something I do every day in my job, and most people respond in a more civil, less defensive fashion.

    And when someone asks questions of me, as I expect they will in my job, I hope that when I respond, I do try to respond in a polite manner. It makes for more productive conversation.

    E-mail address: hgomez@plaind.com

    Until we have a live comments feature in place, feel free to send Tech Link comments there. I’ll do my best to respond on the blog or in an e-mail if you prefer.

    Thanks for reading the long post.

  • Ugh, I meant to type “Tech Link is by no means perfect” not the double negative that would come across arrogant and snarky. Apologies.

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